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natassja26		#4221	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1186 11/04/09 11:02 AM I'm just sayin's all.	pesi wrote: Good Morning! Doesn't it seem to you or maybe some of you that both Jason and Elizabeth are doing things they truly wouldn't do? They both don't recognize themselves, individually - I know I have seen Elizabeth make this remark repeatedly and yesterday Jason felt he was becoming what he hates. Good Morning, Pesi! I agree with that. It really seems Elizabeth and Jason are in new places in their lives where they're doing things they normally wouldn't, finding out they're people they didn't want to be. Yesterday, and lately with Jason, I've really felt that way. I feel like Burton is playing it like Jason is really questioning who he is, what drives him, and why he chooses the things he does when it clearly is having an impact on how he ends up feeling about it. The gun with the kids yesterday? That was a "WTF am I doing?" kind of moment. Elizabeth...I think she's doing what she's done before with Lucky and Jason...she moved on when Lucky died, but she's soooo loyal to him that she can't leave him behind. She loves him, but isn't in love with him, and is seeking comfort elsewhere. I don't think she loves Nikolas, but she's certainly attracted to him right now. I think Nik is the consolation prize for no Jason, IMO. But, to repeat mistakes of the past is eating her alive, I think. Kim
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mom8970.thecanvasmessag...		#4222	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3266 11/04/09 11:07 AM	skinnyminny21 wrote: Palace wrote: 96meimei wrote: personally I think it would be an excellent idea. I really really dislike JM right now and his current incarnation shows no acting talent what so ever-maybe this would be a chance for SBu to actually show something in the way of acting abilities. My cat does a better job than him right now and what he has shown in the past 3-4 mos. I would watch this well as long as the skank is kicked to the curb. who would make medical decision for him if he became incapacitated? Monica? or even Edward? or would it be Sonny--his brother (said sarcastically). I agree, seeing someone orchestrated Jaso's break down, then see Jason fighting against it will be very interesting. And if it is well written, it could even be emmy material!! By the way in the spoiler tread Kissaby post tweets from ABCsoapindepth. it was a respond to someone saying that yesterday scene was a plot point for "Jason and his box of pain saga". And SID answer: "*true dat. an it will play out BIG time in the coming weeks". So I really start to think that Jason may have a break down... You know this has peaked my interest if this is the way it goes. Jason dealing with unfamiliar territory by being attacked mentally, him struggling with knowing how to cope, out of his comfort zone. This kind of substance for Steve to portray I would like to watch. I would too, Heather*. This amazing banner is by the amazing Pam. Thank you. Avi by JasonElizabethMorgan at Rendevous.
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natassja26		#4223	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1186 11/04/09 11:09 AM I'm just sayin's all.	lrn2run wrote: I don't think Guza will like JM out of the mob; he's a hitman. He's not just in the mob...he's the scary part of the mob. However, with so many clamoring about there being too much mob on GH, I can see them making their star couple (gag) PI's which will give the viewers something new while still allowing JM to carry a gun. I don't think Jason will ever be out of the mob. As long as Sonny is on the show, there will be a mob and Jason will be in it. Didn't Burton say he wants to stay in the mob, he likes it? They can't put together a good PI story anyway. It's all been about cheating spouses and hanging in the halls at the MC. Viewers are clamoring about lots of things and I see them toning it down and bringing in more hospital stuff but not that. Please not that. J J, I don't know what they'd do with Jason if he ever were to get out, but I think they're exploring it a little bit. After yesterday's show, and what we keep seeing with all the "what am I doing, I almost shot so and so," and the consequences of his actions we keep seeing, followed by the parallel to what they're doing and about to do with Michael, I think they might explore it. Problem is he should go back to Liason if he's getting out. That would be in character for Jason, to be with his son now that there's no danger, etc etc, but since he's with Sam? How would that work? Just have a fahmily with her? I would hate that. Unless Jasam is a huge set up for a Liason/Jasam triangle later, which I don't really see, it's too little to late for me for Jason to get out of the mob. He should have tried being with Liz and getting. That's the only way I'd buy it for Jason at this point. Kim
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lrn2run		#4224	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6487 11/04/09 11:10 AM	If GH just did LIASON, they could have so much more to write about. It just boggles my mind that they won't go there. I just don't understand. They have two core characters that are tied to two of the oldest families on the show. One big, bad mob enforcer and one, sweet, pure nurse. It's the stuff fairy tales are made of. I can only imagine how excited some writers would be to have these two characters to write for. The stories are endless. The love story is timeless. Beauty and the beast anyone? What are they waiting for? They passed the star-crossed lovers stage when Guza gave them a child. It's time to move on and make them a bona fide couple and watch them and the entire freakin' canvas deal with the two of them being together. I just don't get it. THERE HAS GOT TO BE SOMETHING BETTER THAN THIS FOR JASON MORGAN. Jason Morgan aside, there has to be something better than this for us fans. J Eta: You got it Kim. If he gets out, it has to be so he can be with his family. Not the skank. She's the adventure junkie that "gets" the life he's currently in, not one outside the mob. Thanks Pam for another awesome banner and fun graphics!
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liasonlove87.thecanvasmessag...		#4225	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2818 11/04/09 11:11 AM le sigh	Well whatever that REALLY INTERESTING story for Jason is it better have nothing to do with Skank. Cause she's sinking his ship and fast. I'm so sick of reading about the Franco story bringing them closer. WTF? How so? He teaches her how to be a competent PI? I mean really. There is nothing going for these two besides their hi-jinx adventures. There are so many moments, so much potential for the writers to get veiwers to start liking or connecting to Jason again but they miss the freakin boat. I mean he pulls a gun out on a mother and toddler and what does he do? He moans and blubbers about what he has become and makes no mention of the son and mother HE gave up. Cause it hits really close to home for his character and would make so much more sense to bring up that but because of his bed bunny of course he can't, cause that would make him a moronic hypocrite and make Miss WonderBraLess look like the vulgar trash she is. I mean I want to rip my hair out with the level of "depth" their conversations have. He is obviously unsettled and upset about what happened and miss slow ass has nothing better to say but "it must have been awful for you" Well no shit sherlock! Wanna take a guess how it felt for the MOTHER AND CHILD? Jesus. Who writes this stuff? I want to cry what they have done to my Jason and the useless leech they have attached to his side. She is so incredibly USELESS. Absolutely useless. Her comforting words of wisdom only show how stupid and idiotic she is and that no one should ever allow her to talk..I swear it's like reality and fiction are crossing over here. See the parallels? It's not that far of a stretch. Take a guess what I'm talking about. That's all I'm gonna say on that before I get into trouble Last Edited By: liasonlove87 11/04/09 11:33 AM. Edited 1 time.
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maritim		#4226	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1842 11/04/09 11:15 AM	Well i bit the bullet and have watched some of Jaxxx scenes on YT.....After the nausea passed...... i can see xxx is up to something, there's def something up with the trick.Jason puts more into his scenes with the door knob than he does with the white washed Belladonna, just one mention of Liz and cake and the man brings his all.....just my opinion is all ..... i couldn't watch the beast sex .....just too pukeworthy.Loving Lulu and Dom/Dante there's chemistry there and i don't even like Lulu JJ looks like Sbu's child.....I'm sorry but i would rather have Greg V if we have to have the dumb-ass character on the show in the first place
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natassja26		#4227	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1186 11/04/09 11:29 AM I'm just sayin's all.	lrn2run wrote: Eta: You got it Kim. If he gets out, it has to be so he can be with his family. Not the skank. She's the adventure junkie that "gets" the life he's currently in, not one outside the mob. And I'm going to make one more argument that antis, and the writers, too, cannot debate. Elizabeth "gets" his life. She gets it, she understands, and she's accepted it, just like Carly did so many years ago. Sam "joins in" on Jason's life, which is in fact different from every other woman he's been with. That's the only thing that makes her different. Saying Elizabeth can't handle the life means you have to say that about Carly, which at this point is true. She can't handle her boys being in danger, she can't handle being with their father, etc. But Elizabeth and Carly both are strong enough to handle it. They just don't join in on the illegal activities, which is why Sonny and Jason love each of them respectively. They're loyal, and good, and strong. I'm just saying. And I'm sick of hearing people say "Sam gets his life." She certainly didn't get it when she yelled at Jason for "costing her the ability to bear more children" when she was shot on at the Metro Court, leaving her barren. ETA: Ok, i have to go be responsible now. Have a good day, y'all. Kim
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faithfullyremain		#4228	[url]	[-]
Posts: 605 11/04/09 12:00 PM	Miss WonderBraLess That's a classic, Melody! She gets it, she understands, and she's accepted it, just like Carly did so many years ago I loved this point, Kim. She does get it. She may not like it, but she knows who he is and what he does, and she loves him anyway. While watching the show yesterday I was instantly struck by the scene where Jason explained his feelings about the mother and children he nearly shot. I couldn't help but picture the scene with Elizabeth there rather than Sam. Instead of hearing, "Oh Jason, just trust your instincts (even if it means accidentally shooting people) and we've got to find Carly!" we would have had Jason telling her about it and then Elizabeth wouldn't have said a word.. I could totally picture her waiting anxiously on him to come home, rushing into his arms while Spinelli looked on. Just looking at her would have made the anguish for him even worse and he could have explained how much the family looked like his own. She would have just held him in her arms with that look that says, I'll be here for you. And then she would have asked, "Are they okay?" I think the writers meant for Sam's purpose yesterday to be comforting and reassuring, but instead it comes off silly. Kim is right: Sam joins in on Jason's life. She has no idea how the woman felt and Jason knows that. She won't ever be able fill in the gaps in Jason's emotions because she's got the same gaps. It's like slapping two pieces of bread together with jelly on both and then wondering why your PB&J tastes like it's missing something.
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faithfullyremain		#4229	[url]	[-]
Posts: 605 11/04/09 12:11 PM	Kim's post was so good that I guess I wasn't finished with it yet. But Elizabeth and Carly both are strong enough to handle it. I couldn't help but be reminded of what Jason says about Liz when yesterday Sonny told Olivia, "Carly's the bravest person I know." How many times has Jason told Elizabeth she's the 'strongest person he knows'? Jason continues to say that Sam can handle his life, but I've never heard him tell anyone how he admires her... I FF most of their scenes though, so I could have missed it. I've always wanted a friends but enemies relationship between Carly and Elizabeth, even though I have HATED Carly in the past. I think Laura Wright and Becky would be amazing in scenes together, and the dynamic between the two characters would be so interesting. The differences in how they've handled situations, the similarities they have...etc.
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liasonlove87.thecanvasmessag...		#4230	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2818 11/04/09 12:17 PM le sigh	Good point Natassja. I'm also very sick of them using that excuse to differentiate the two for Jason. Sam gets it, she "fits" is such bullshit. Look at her now, she's trying so hard to keep up with Jason like his personal lap dog running around waiting for him to throw out treats her way. She gets involved in his business when he never asks for it. Gives out unasked for 'advice' that makes no sense. She shot a gun with her damn eyes closed people! She gets pissed off and upset why he leaves her out of things like a pouting child (which is just stupid) yet here I'm supposed to believe these two are made for each other? Fuck you GH and your twisted logic. The maturity level and depth of this couple is like high school level--at best. There is no connection, no understanding between the two. Every time they come close to have a 'meaningful' conversation one of them side steps it and avoids it like the plague and the topic gets shifted to business. I just find it ironic and frustrating at the same time how the show went out of its way countless times to show how STRONG Liz is and independent and accepts and understands Jason but to only have all of that brushed under the rug two seconds flat to break them up and use the ever-tiring excuse that Liz doesn't 'fit'. Excuse me? Was it not her who saved her own baby from a burning building and gave him CPR? Was it not her who shot a man at point range in the Cabin to save herself? Was it not her who risked her own freedom by shredding evidence files to help clear Jason? I could go on and on. That takes A LOT of balls. She has risked so much several times so effortlessly and selflessly to save him when she didn't have to. That's what it means to be strong and fearless, she gets Jason's life, she fits and has NEVER asked him to change like so many are willing to easily declare on the show and off. (And I still don't understand where they got that idea from) Sorry no. People are confusing her with others. That was Robin and Courtney, not Liz. And she doesn't have to prove anything unlike Slutmantha. I feel she always does these things to prove something. I dunno. I mean to me it's all a show, prop her up, give her a gun and a knife in her boot and ta da she's a "badass". So damn transparent. Sorry no. I would believe it more if she could save her own hide without Jason coming to her rescue every two seconds. All this sanctimonious crap about her being a ride or die chick and fitting Jason's life is bullshit. Absolute bullshit. And I wish people would put the comparisons to rest cause it doesn't ring true. Far from it.
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Palace		#4231	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1160 11/04/09 12:18 PM	faithfullyremain wrote: I think the writers meant for Sam's purpose yesterday to be comforting and reassuring, but instead it comes off silly. Kim is right: Sam joins in on Jason's life. She has no idea how the woman felt and Jason knows that. She won't ever be able fill in the gaps in Jason's emotions because she's got the same gaps. It's like slapping two pieces of bread together with jelly on both and then wondering why your PB&J tastes like it's missing something. For me, the scene show how not in sync. jaskank is. Back in June/July/August, jaskank was a team: sam was able to use Spinelli computer and she was taking his place, she was the girl on adventure with him because suddenly she was able to do Jason's enforcer job better than him, She was also his "confidant", the one to who make him feel "better" (according to frons). He was listening to her, he was all "yes you are right", she was the one he call when he need help. But since their hunt for Claudia start, they aren't in sync. anymore. Sam isn't the sidekick anymore. During Mexico Jason needed sam for everything: for fixing the car, healing him etc... Now she is just a wallpaper, if her character wasn't in the scene, nobody will realise it. And suddenly, sam isn't the one who understand Jason the best: Yesterday it was Spinelli who completely understand Jason's feeling, sam was completely clueless of his "internal conflict". And when Jason yelled at Spinelli, sam was unable to calm him down and was surprise by hs reaction, it completely startled her. I don't know what JF character will do to jaskank, Guza words of confort sounding more like a threat than anything ells. JF will shake couples but somehow jaskank will be the only one safe? That leave me humm, isn't it a way to say "yes, when franco will be here, they will be together, but after...". The fact that sam wasn't able to follow Jason's pain speak volum to me, but again, it could just lead to nothing. "*L'art n'est pas la représentation d'une belle chose, mais la belle représentation d'une chose" La critique de la faculté de juger, Kant*
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faithfullyremain		#4232	[url]	[-]
Posts: 605 11/04/09 12:28 PM	Was it not her who risked her own freedom by shredding evidence files to help clear Jason? I could go on and on. Melody, my favorite was when she dressed up in a police uniform with Lucky's badge and became "Officer Spencer" so she could go see Jason in jail. I loved it and I loved her reaction when Lucky found out. Guza words of confort sounding more like a threat than anything ells. Palace, I don't think we can ever go by what Guza says. The man is nuts and he hasn't ever made a statement to the mags that played out the way it sounded. Pam...
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natassja26		#4233	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1186 11/04/09 12:33 PM I'm just sayin's all.	faithfullyremain wrote: Miss WonderBraLess That's a classic, Melody! She gets it, she understands, and she's accepted it, just like Carly did so many years ago I loved this point, Kim. She does get it. She may not like it, but she knows who he is and what he does, and she loves him anyway. While watching the show yesterday I was instantly struck by the scene where Jason explained his feelings about the mother and children he nearly shot. I couldn't help but picture the scene with Elizabeth there rather than Sam. Instead of hearing, "Oh Jason, just trust your instincts (even if it means accidentally shooting people) and we've got to find Carly!" we would have had Jason telling her about it and then Elizabeth wouldn't have said a word.. I could totally picture her waiting anxiously on him to come home, rushing into his arms while Spinelli looked on. Just looking at her would have made the anguish for him even worse and he could have explained how much the family looked like his own. She would have just held him in her arms with that look that says, I'll be here for you. And then she would have asked, "Are they okay?" I think the writers meant for Sam's purpose yesterday to be comforting and reassuring, but instead it comes off silly. Kim is right: Sam joins in on Jason's life. She has no idea how the woman felt and Jason knows that. She won't ever be able fill in the gaps in Jason's emotions because she's got the same gaps. It's like slapping two pieces of bread together with jelly on both and then wondering why your PB&J tastes like it's missing something. OMG, yeah, yesterday I was soooo doing the same thing. I was imagining what Elizabeth would say to him (and I've been watching the show and trying to remain neutral and impartial) and I just thought what Sam said to him was soooo stupid. I found myself saying, "Elizabeth would never say that to him. She'd reach him on a deeper level." And Elizabeth would have said, "but you didn't shoot them." She would have reminded him of how awesome he is, characteristically speaking, not pulling the "tough love," card on him. Amelia, ICAM, they both have the same flaws. If they're about to explore Jason's questioning his role in the mob and reactions to life like we've mentioned above, then I don't see how in the world Sam will be able to support him in/through this. Unless that's the point. If that's the point, that he's not getting support from her, perhaps he'll seek it in Elizabeth. Kim
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Palace		#4234	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1160 11/04/09 12:39 PM	faithfullyremain wrote: Guza words of confort sounding more like a threat than anything ells. Palace, I don't think we can ever go by what Guza says. The man is nuts and he hasn't ever made a statement to the mags that played out the way it sounded. That was the idea I was going for! but my words get mixed up. I wanted to say: JF is suppose to shaken couples, but per Guza Jaskank is safe, and weddings bells are ringing. For me it was: if Guza take the time to say that, then thing smay not play out like that. Be careful. And if weddings his here, then it means jaskank is ending. The fact that jaskank was the only couple mentioned remind me of the Carnival drop for Liason and the toxic balls, he purposely put the spot light on Liason and not on other couple, because it is a mean for luring the viewers.He says what's the fans wants to hear: Jaskank is safe, the toxic ball will show you that Liason isn't so over... But in reality, it is the contrary or a nightmarish version that play out on screen. "*L'art n'est pas la représentation d'une belle chose, mais la belle représentation d'une chose" La critique de la faculté de juger, Kant*
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pesi		#4235	[url]	[-]
Posts: 938 11/04/09 12:41 PM	I have nothing of value to add other than I really like your avis natassja26 and mom8970. Pesi Avatar by Elanot
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liasonlove87.thecanvasmessag...		#4236	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2818 11/04/09 12:48 PM le sigh	faithfullyremain wrote: Was it not her who risked her own freedom by shredding evidence files to help clear Jason? I could go on and on. Melody, my favorite was when she dressed up in a police uniform with Lucky's badge and became "Officer Spencer" so she could go see Jason in jail. I loved it and I loved her reaction when Lucky found out. Guza words of confort sounding more like a threat than anything ells. Palace, I don't think we can ever go by what Guza says. The man is nuts and he hasn't ever made a statement to the mags that played out the way it sounded. Oh don't get me started on that Amelia I was gonna bring that up too it's one of my favs. Jason's REACTION when he sees her especially is just priceless. The fact that she went through all that trouble just to see him was too flippin cute and made me feel all warm and fuzzy. She looked sexy! That cute little snug suit and flipping the badge. Jesus. I'm surprised Jason didn't want to ravage her right then and there. Yes I'm getting carried away. But could you imagine? thinks dirty thoughts My girl crush on her amplified when she did that cause it was so incredibly risky for her to do, fearless and sexy as hell. As for Guza, then does that mean "Jasam are in it for the LONG HAUL" mean they are gonna crash and burn? Please please please. It's Guza language. I mean whatever he says it never happens or the total opposite happens. Yeah a girl can dream. Just my damn luck that the one time he says something it actually comes true. Gah. Last Edited By: liasonlove87 11/04/09 12:51 PM. Edited 1 time.
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faithfullyremain		#4237	[url]	[-]
Posts: 605 11/04/09 2:45 PM	I'm still all for CO= Compound 77x, the experimental drug Jason has been slipped and making him act like an idiot, that Karpov was sneaking into the country, and Matt came to town tracking, that Sam learned about while working with the Russians, that Jerry was carrying in the briefcase at the Metrocourt.... And Dante knows about it because its originator was investigated years ago and it was a case he trained on at the academy? lvnjasliz wrote this as her explanation for the CO77x meaning in the SG thread. Even though I'm not sure that Guza is capable of writing something this smart, I loved it. It would actually tie everything together. Wow. And I just read that Jasam breaks up on the 17th. I can't imagine that it will be for the reasons I want, but I'll take what I can get.
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liasonlove87.thecanvasmessag...		#4238	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2818 11/04/09 2:58 PM le sigh	If only GH would take storyline advice. Cause they need it like no other. But seriously if I could and if they would listen I would tell lvnjasliz to send that right to Guza. That would make so much more sense and make a great story.
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lrn2run		#4239	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6487 11/04/09 3:07 PM	faithfullyremain wrote: I'm still all for CO= Compound 77x, the experimental drug Jason has been slipped and making him act like an idiot, that Karpov was sneaking into the country, and Matt came to town tracking, that Sam learned about while working with the Russians, that Jerry was carrying in the briefcase at the Metrocourt.... And Dante knows about it because its originator was investigated years ago and it was a case he trained on at the academy? lvnjasliz wrote this as her explanation for the CO77x meaning in the SG thread. Even though I'm not sure that Guza is capable of writing something this smart, I loved it. It would actually tie everything together. Wow. And I just read that Jasam breaks up on the 17th. I can't imagine that it will be for the reasons I want, but I'll take what I can get. Oh!!! I like both those things. I would love to see Jason being drugged by the skank. Then they break up?! Is this reliable? Please make it reliable. Of course, one has to wonder how they can break up if they are not actually a couple. No matter. I'll take what I can get and be happy for 5 minutes. J Thanks Pam for another awesome banner. There's nothing like Jason with a gun... Well...except if it's smoking after he shot the skank.
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mom8970.thecanvasmessag...		#4240	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3266 11/04/09 3:26 PM	Word at DD is JaXyz are O-V-E-R on november 17th!! This amazing banner is by the amazing Pam. Thank you. Avi by JasonElizabethMorgan at Rendevous.
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