mamadrama wrote:
lvnjasliz wrote:
mamadrama wrote:
Snookie76 wrote:
lvnjasliz wrote:
4everours wrote:
I understand why Elizabeth is gambling with the trust fund money. She feels bought & paid off by Jason. He gave her the cash to do whatever she wanted to, for the kids, but she doesn't want to use it really. She wanted to be a single mother raising her kids, and she is one. She wants to give her kids everything in the world but it's hard to do that on a nurse's salary. Now, she absolutely could use the cash and send Cameron to camp or anywhere really. But- she hates that cash. By investing in something, she hopes to make money- in a way on her own- and she can send Cameron to camp using the profits of HER investment.
Nik is constantly trying to throw money in her face as a reason to be together. Jason did a payoff & ran away, with virtually zero contact for 2 years. Neither man has shown,lately, interest in her as a person, someone to love & cherish. Nik was an illicit affair. She loved Jason but it's not like he begged her to stay with him. Lucky, as disgusting as he is, wanted her. Maybe he wanted her because he's controlling, revenge, habit, love, or the need for her to mommy him. That's why, IMO, she wanted to be with him- the need to be needed. Now, she needs to cut the damn cord with both Brothers Grimm. I want her to smack Jason upside his head & knock some sense into that man.


I get it, but I think its more I think she is being manipulated into it. She will not ask Jason for anymore money. She thinks he paid her enough for her services. She made that clear to Diane. And she didn't want to use the trust fund money for the boys, but Nic made it clear that her kids will resent eachother because he will be treating his child with her one way and she can't afford to give the boys the things he can give his child with her, so she is trying to prove him wrong. And I agree, she thinks Lucky is the only person who actually wanted to be with her, never mind he actually only wants her when she is broken, but now she is broken and figures he will come around and want her again and she can give her boys the life she promised to give them.
But I really do think Steven is working with Nic, and Nic is with Helena, and Shirley is with Nic. Steven and Shirley are both pushing Liz to move in and be with Nic and let him take care of them. Steven and Nic are who decided to send Liz to SB, and Nic knew Helena was runnign the place, the Cassidines have the pharma companys and suddenly Steven has inside info on a pharma company, so Liz is gonna invest and lose the money and guess what now she has nothing to fall back on, and Steven can release her from her job and she will have nothing. I really think its one conspiracy to push Liz to be with Nic, and Helena only wants Liz with Nic to get control of the baby, then she will be expendable, so will Jake and Cam. I think Liz had no chance, she was manipulated from the beginning.

I actually understand Liz why she is investing.

I think she wants to erase Jason out of her life too.

Liz seeing Jason with xxx just broke her apart and wants to destroy whatever left she had with Jason.

  


There are spoilers out there that Shirley is a plant by a Casadine.  That she is manipulating Liz.  Also, that Lisa was being used to manipulate Patrick and Steven into this investment opportunity.  This whole investment deal is a means to an end by someone.  Everyone is supposed to lose as some sort of revenge.  Not sure why someone is seeking revenge on Steve and/or Partick, but Liz losing her money definitely plays into the Casidine's hands.
  
Here I thought it was Steven that brought it up to Lisa, when Liz overheard. So I think Steven is the main instagator if you will. Steven is also telling Liz what Nic is, that she cna't raise her kids alone, she needs money, she needs help, should go to Nic to get those things, then you have Shirley, go be a princess, go be waited on, he can give your children everything.... But I don't think Lisa is manipulating about the money, I think that might be why Steven doesn't care that she is using him to make Patrick jealous, he is using her to manipulate his sister and keep Patrick and Robin from interfering with Liz too.

  
Good Point.  Well we know from a very early Steve/Helena convo that Helena has something on Steve.  Unfortunately, Steve has to be involved if Shirley is a plant because Steve assigned Liz to the Oncology wing.  The way things are going, Liz is going to end up in a position where she really will have no one that she can trust or depend on. 

  
Thats what i take out of this, Liz is gonna find herself alone when everything is revealed. I would bet more money that its a Nic/Liz huge wedding that is planned that never actually takes place when Liz finds out everyone betrayed her, including Nic.